Joker
It ’s secure to say no one expectedthe late announcementfrom Warner Bros. mental picture that an origin film aboutThe Jokeris now in some form of early maturation . Rumored to be produced by the legendary Martin Scorsese ( GoodFellas ) with Todd Phillips ( The Hangover ) slated to steer and co - write along with Scott Silver ( 8 Mile ) , the Joker ’s first feature movie as a star is said to be set in aTaxi Driver - alike 1980s Gotham City , will depict how the Joker became a ill-shapen , clown - alike homicidal maniac , and will apparentlynotbe part of the DC Extended Universe of films . Nor has there been confirmation whether Batman will be in the motion-picture show , but if it is n’t set in the DCEU , the part of Batman wo n’t be play by Ben Affleck if the Dark Knight even appear inThe Joker . ThisJokermovie concept beg a phone number of head : Why do an line story?Is it even a good idea?Will it work ? An equally apposite question is : What is the reasoning behind suddenly make two different joker on the silver projection screen at the same time ? Sure , there have been multiple cinematic incarnations of Batman , but none of them co - existed simultaneously . TheBatmanfranchise that began with Michael Keaton and ended with George Clooney was dormant for 8 years before Christopher Nolan ’s rebootBatman Begins . Ben Affleck did n’t take over the role until Nolan ’s swansongThe Dark Knight Riseshad been gone from theatre for 4 years . Audiences just fit the DCEU ’s official Joker , played by Jared Leto , in 2016’sSuicide Squad . Leto will reportedly reprise the role three more times : inSuicide Squad 2 , and alongside Margot Robbie in the Harley Quinn - centric bad girlfriend squad up filmGotham City Sirens , and ina Joker and Harley - focused filmfrom the theater director ofCrazy , Stupid , Love . The Jokerorigin flick will apparently be unrelated to all of those DCEU film . Which bring us back to the question : Why have two Jokers in DC movies - and what if it does n’t stop there?To bump an reply , we might look to DC Films President Geoff Johns and what he has help establish in DC Comics ' hugely successful publication enterprisingness DC Rebirth . In short : in current continuity , there arethreeJokers running around the DC Universe . This was pose up in Johns ' summer 2015Justice LeagueeventDarkseid War . In that story , Batman gained control of the Mobius Chair belong to the New God Metron . capable to solicit into a Brobdingnagian repository of multiversal knowledge , Batman involve the Mobius Chair"What is the Joker ’s true name?“He did n’t get the answer he was looking for and rather , the Chair ’s response was a shocking reveal .
THE THREE JOKERS IN DC REBIRTH
Batman take there are three Jokers in the DC Universe . This was made potential by the intrigue of Doctor Manhattan ofWatchmen . It turn out Doctor Manhattan had steal ten years from the DC Universe and was responsible for its changeover from the New 52 persistence that began in 2011 to the current DC Rebirth continuity . Somehow , the Joker was split into three variant of himself : the original incarnation of the Joker created by Bill Finger , Jerry Robinson and Bob Kane , the 1980s version of the Joker Alan Moore and Brian Bolland essayed inThe Killing Joke , and the modern New 52 version of the Joker primarily spell by Scott Snyder and illustrated by Greg Capullo . They are all the Joker , with all of their murderous insanity intact , but their history are unlike because they ’re from unlike DC Universe continuities , yet they all currently exist in the DC Rebirth continuity .
THE TWO JOKERS IN DC MOVIES
If we cast aside the previous cinematic versions of the Joker played by Cesar Romero in 1966 , Jack Nicholson in 1989’sBatman , and by Heath Ledger in 2008’sThe Dark Knight(as well as Mark Hamill ’s beloved animated Joker ) as entirely disjoined from the current DCEU cinematic enfranchisement , we are look at two different Jokers at the same time existing in motion picture say to be unrelated to each other . When Ben Affleck ’s Dark Knight push the Joker , as we saw inSuicide Squad , it ’s the Joker play by Jared Leto as they are both the ' prescribed DCEU versions ' of the characters . At this distributor point , it ’s anyone ’s guess if there will be a Batman in the Todd PhillipsJokerorigin motion picture , and who will portray him .
DC has long been proud of his ' multiverse ' concept , where different avatar of their superheroes can exist in unlike medium platform at the same time . For instance , while Henry Cavill plays the Man of Steel in the feature film , Supergirlon The CW has its own , very dissimilar version of Superman played by Tyler Hoechlin . There ’s also a ' proto - Joker ' on FOX’sGothamseries act as by Cameron Monaghan , though it ’s still not sure if his character Jerome will truly transform into the Joker on that show .
However , this will be the first metre two unlike versions of a character will live in the moving picture ( and not a preceding / succeeding reading of the same fibre in the same macrocosm like both Patrick Stewart and James McAvoy playing different ages of the same Charles Xavier inX - Men : day of Future Past ) . 2007 ’s plannedJustice League : Mortalfilm directed by George Miller ( Mad Max : Fury Road ) was scrapped in part because Christopher Nolan vetoed the idea of a completely different Batman than Christian Bale ’s in a flick whileThe Dark Knight Trilogywas still happening in theaters .
TOO MANY JOKERS?
To give the Devil his due , the Joker is the single most noted and iconic super scoundrel in comic book account . Like Superman and Batman , the Joker is identifiable all over the domain . It ’s reasonable to say most masses have hear of the Joker and can cite his basic traits : his ghoulish smile , his evil laughter , and his position as a homicidal swashbuckler who is Batman ’s big adversary . With the succeeder ofSuicide Squad , comprise of its array of the " Worst Heroes Ever , " and the burgeon trend of " anti - hero " funny Word of God picture show likeVenomstarring Tom Hardy andBlack Adamstarring Dwayne Johnson in pre - production , it ’s not surprising that DC Films would go all the style and make a villain - centric comic book pic about the groovy villain in their pantheon . After all , they ’re in the movie concern to make green , and we do n’t just entail the color of the Joker ’s hair .
DC expect like they ’re take a Sir Frederick Handley Page from FOX ’s X - Men franchise . While the coreX - Menfilms about Charles Xavier ( James McAvoy ) , Magneto ( Michael Fassbender ) , and Mystique ( Jennifer Lawrence ) are set in one version of X - Men continuity , the late filmsLoganandDeadpoolare 10 - Men films that live in their own continuities . Loganwas set in the possible hereafter of an alternate universe where the X - Men are dead , whileDeadpoolis in its own continuity set in modern day but with cameos by X - Men like Colossus ( Stefan Capicic ) and Negasonic Teenage Warhead ( Brianna Hildebrand).X - man : New Mutants , currently in yield , wo n’t be link to any of the prior picture either . Meanwhile , television’sLegionandThe Giftedare set in their own X - Men universes unrelated to any of the others . Confusing ? Sure , but fans are enjoying each different X - Men franchise regardless .
With Geoff Johns overseeing every film grow under a DC streamer starring DC ’s character , the question remains of whether he will have the picture show follow the comedian ' lead and infix a Joker trifecta . The topographic point to ascertain a third and different cinematic Joker might just be theBatgirlfilm under the auspices of Joss Whedon . Batgirlis said to be based upon the New 52 strip that followThe Killing Joke ’s persistence , which features Barbara Gordon as a subsister of an assault by the Joker that left her paralytic . Whether or notBatgirlwill take place outside the DCEU as well might have in mind that Jared Leto wo n’t play the Joker that attacked Barbara Gordon . The Joker , if he ’s seen inBatgirland not played by Leto or whoever stars in Todd Phillips’Joker , would then be the third Joker concurrent in a DC movie . The DC film will then become just like the DC Rebirth comics , with three film Jokers , and Warner Bros. laugh all the way to the bank .