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If a Marvel character shows up in Sony ’s Marvel movie , can they still appear in the MCU ? Despite producerAmy Pascal ’s insistencethat the upcomingVenomis not lay in the same universe as the right MCU , rumors continue to persistthat Tom Hollandmight make an appearancein Ruben Fleischer ’s anti - hero thriller . For all intents and purposes , as of this authorship , there is no prescribed connection betweenVenomand the MCU just yet , and there may never be , regardless of the best wishes of a hype - up fandom .
As excited as audiences may be for a big - budget , radius - rated , no - holds - barredVenomfilm , it may come in at a great monetary value to the MCU . IfVenom(along with the in - developmentSilver & BlackandMorbius ) is not set in the MCU , then what does that mean for the aspect of its type ever appearing in a " real " Marvel movie ? For that matter , the story of the upcominganimatedSpider - Manfilm apparently forestall the possibility of a full - on alive - actionSpider - Versemovie star Tom Holland , Tobey Maguire , and Andrew Garfield . Not that such a pic was ever actually in development , but now it would just seem extra .
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By all accounts , the universe of film likeVenom , Into the Spider - Verse , andSilver & Blackwas the price Marvel Studios had to ante up for reboot Spider - Man into the Marvel Cinematic Universe . Considering the first-class vital and financial response ofSpider - Man Homecoming , as well as the quality ’s scene - stealing show inCaptain America : Civil WarandAvengers : Infinity War , it seems it was a cost worth pay . But what if Kevin Feige and the squad at Marvel Studios want to bring in Venom to a Spider - Man sequel ?
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IfVenomis a loge office success , Sony has design tolaunch a franchisearound the character . It ’s also likely that they’rewaiting to see how the plastic film performsbefore moving forward with theirMorbiusandSilver & Blackfilms , which are base on importantly lesser - do it characters than the iconic and provocative black Symbiote .
The braggy reverence regarding Sony ’s Marvel Universe is , since it ’s not part of the MCU , there could be multiple version of character appear in films across multiple universes . If the MCU introduces Symbiotes , they ’ll likely wish to have full control over the casting of frame like Eddie Brock and Cletus Kasady . The same holds true forSilver & BlackandMorbius , allow for those moving picture are ever made … Or they could make Sony role off - limits in the MCU to avoid any potential confusion .
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At this degree in the plot , there is grounds to suggest that Sony and Marvel do n’t desire to include multiple version of key Marvel soma across the MCU and Sony ’s universe . In the early stages of development onBlackPanther , Ryan Coogler was calculate to let in Kraven the Hunteras a villain in the film . Kraven , a " great livid hunter " archetype , is a double-dyed fit for the universe of Wakanda , but Coogler admitted that certain sound issues prevented him from utilizing the villain . Of course , Kraven is mostly known for being a Spider - Man villain , and there arerumors of a Kraven the Hunter moviesecretly in development at Sony . It does n’t take a conspiracy theoriser to connect the point and suggest that Kraven was interdict from appearing inBlack Pantherbecause Sony had their own plans for the character .
Page 2 of 3: Marvel Character Have Already Appeared in Multiple Universes
It Wouldn’t Be the First Time Marvel Characters Appeared in Multiple Universes
This does n’t happen often , but every once in a while , Marvel characters appear in multiple existence simultaneously . Of naturally , the obvious examples are the disparate TV , comic , pic , and video secret plan universes . wanderer - Man himself will be appear in the much - anticipatedSpider - Manvideo game for PlayStation 4 , as well as theInto the Spider - Versemovie , in addition to his role inAvengers : Infinity War . That ’s three different versions of Peter Parker , but it ’s easier for audiences to digest when one is live - military action , one is invigorate , and the other is a video game .
The most notable comparison in recent memory is Pietro Maximoff , AKA Quicksilver . In the Marvel Comics canyon , Quicksilver is both a mutant and part of the 10 - Men roster , and a member of The Avengers . Due to a loophole in the legal patois surrounding the fictitious character , both Marvel Studios and twentieth Century Fox were able-bodied to use unlike versions of Quicksilver in their movie , played by different actors .
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InAvengers : Age of Ultron(and a abbreviated cameo at the end ofCaptain America : The Winter Soldier ) , Quicksilver appeared as a minion of Ultron who after joins The Avengers . This version of the grapheme is not a Mutant , but he obtain his great power due to Hydra ’s experiments with the Soul Stone plant within Loki ’s staff . There is also no citation made of his father from the comics , Magneto .
InX - Men : daylight of Future Past , Quicksilver is a mutant , and it ’s hinted that Magneto is his Church Father ( which is confirm inX - Men : Apocalypse ) . It ’s also worth note that theAge of Ultronversion of the character reference was killed off in his launching coming into court , while theX - Menincarnation survives and is slated to appear inX - Men : Dark Phoenix , and even had a surprise cameo inDeadpool 2 . While Quicksilver was merely part of an ensemble in both the MCU and X - Men films , Venom is the lead theatrical role of his own self - titled film , so having two adaptation of the character run around could be a bit knavish than the Quicksilver state of affairs . Still , it ’s not unprecedented , and arguably a superior solution to trying to force Tom Hardy and Tom Holland together in a gratuitous and tonally - dissonant fanservice crossover .
Even Spider - Man himself appeared in 3 different live - action incarnations in the last 10 class . While none of them were operate simultaneously , there does n’t seem to be any confusion between those universes with most hearing members .
Page 3 of 3: How Sony Could Share Continuity With the MCU
How Sony Could Share Continuity With the MCU
To be fair , though , Kevin Feige is not the only soul responsible for the MCU , since the sprawling cinematic universe also includes a slew of TV series , from ABC’sAgents of SHIELDto Netflix’sThe Defenders , and even Freeform’sCloak & Dagger . All of these property are part of the MCU , and once in a while make reference to events from the movies , but have never made any form of impact on the universe themselves . If there is any sort of crossover withVenom(and the rest of Sony ’s spin - off universe ) , expect it to be in a standardised spot as Marvel ’s Netflix designate ; accessory to the MCU , though all extraneous to it . Of of course , that ’s the way Amy Pascal in the first place line the Sony Marvel Universe ’s relationship to the MCU , a verbal description shequickly clarifiedafter Kevin Feige importune that Sony ’s plastic film were , indeed , not part of the proper Avengers canon .
If Marvel ’s movies are the main wing of the MCU write up , thenAgents of SHIELDandAgent Carterare a sub - wing , including some former pic characters ( with other movie characters appearing once in a blue lunar month ) , and Marvel ’s Netflix suite is a whole other division , prepare slight reference , but otherwise disordered . In the unlikely event thatVenomwinds up being part of the MCU , then it is a distant street corner of a universe which will likely never impact the larger story . After all , how long have audience waited forThe Defendersto cross over withThe Avengers , or for Thor and Coulson to be reunited ? Keep in mind , that as cool as it might seem to see The Punisher combat side - by - side with the friendly - neck of the woods Spider - Man , it would be tonally discordant , to say the least . Spider - Man is a jocund World Wide Web - slinger who fight bad guys and hold witty epigram while jumping around the field of honor ; The Punisher is an obdurate killer who remorselessly guns down gang members with a ruthless and fierce efficiency .
Some stories are custom - made with crosswalk potential . Venom , as see in his in style dark - and - gritty reboot personification , is not one of them , and to attempt to shoehorn Ruben Fleischer ’s stylistically unique take on the teras of dubious nobility into the established tone of the MCU would be a major ill service to everyone involved . If and when the sentence comes tointroduce Venom into the MCU , Marvel Studios should have complete control the creation and implementation of their characters , even if that does n’t prevent Sony from moving forward with their ownVenomsequels . There ’s more than enoughVenomto go around .